Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

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  Does the Watch Tower get you through the night?

  by Hiddenwindow in

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  i have to insist on this.. a friend of mine, who is currently an elder (so am i, but will soon fade), once confessed to me that the most important thing for him is that his children grow drug-free, violence-free, and so forth (that type of thinking is, of course, the result of the wt indoctrination process, which divides the world in two: jw here and satan's people there).

  in other words, for many witnesses the issue is not if this is the true religion or not; it is a matter of how do i get through the night?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  I believe what you're saying is true about many JWs, they haven't logically concluded ANYTHING and so made the decision to be a JW.

  I think that the WTS dogma is designed to appeal to certain emotions and fears that most people naturally have, fear for one's children-their health and future, our spouses, our own lives. It's just sales! A need is pointed out then the solution is then sold.

  You make a good point about your friend. How easy it is to close your eyes and click your heels together and say 'there's no place like the new system there's no place like the new system' when you worry about these most dear things.

  They call it 'throwing one's burden on you-know-who'. I call it refocusing worry in a positive direction.
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  Total Honesty VS. All is Fair in Theocratic Warfare

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i see many long-time posters and newbies getting offended at suggestions for .

  some here to use deception with their family members or friends (or even the cong.. hounders).

  i tend to be very honest with my wife, but i am withholding information.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  JWs say that when Rachel hid the spies at Jericho, said 'they went that-a-way' when they were actually hiding in her residence wasn't lying, it was 'war strategy'. Yeah, it's a tough life, trying to hang on and appear one way to loved ones, but the alternative can be losing one's livelyhood, marital peace, friendships--it can upset your entire LIFE.

  This is different than say, a teenager who hides a drug or alcohol problem from his parents, totally different. That is lying, and a harmful deception.

  This, my dear Watson, is war strategy.
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  JW's Celebrating De Facto Thanksgiving

  by TMS in

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  perhaps one of the most innocuous of the "pagan" holidays witnesses are taught to avoid is the american holiday .

  of thanksgiving.

  without going into the thanksgiving story, if there is one, be assured that jw children steadfastly.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Of course. Our family was the super spiritual pioner/elder concoction, of course we did Thanksgiving, we were taught to logic that 'it was just turkey and mashed pots and cranberry sauce and all the trimmings, what else would we have with turkey. . .so everyone's off work, when would we invite 20 of our closest friends over-when they're AT work?'
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  Shunning is Officially Psychological Torture!!

  by Maddie in

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  i found an interesting article in the wikipedia encyclopedia.

  it actually states that "shunning" is used as a method of psychological torture.. psychological torture is less well known than physical torture and tends to be subtle and much easier to conceal.

  in practice the distinction between physical and psychological torture are often blurred.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Wow. Great read, Maddie. I copied a portion of it and sent it to my dad. Thanks!
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  If You Dressed Up on Halloween- Who Would You Dress Up As ?

  by flipper in

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  thought i'd do another one on halloween!

  i'm in the spirit!

  no pun intended !

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Jesus.
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  Would Witnesses Kill If Ordered? Probably!

  by metatron in

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  as a functioning cult, would jehovah's witnesses kill someone, if ordered?

  i believe that many would.. while some might think this is farfetched, i can cite some examples that manifest a lack of concern.

  for the lives of others, that could easily be extended into murder or manslaughter.. 1) forcing older brothers into jobs at bethel that were far too strenuous for them - as a means of.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  NO kidding. Great points, great topic. After seeing parents and sisters and bros turn on family with such hatred--besides the shunning, I believe they would do anything WTS ordered them to.
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  WT study and talk about sex..

  by chappy in

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  does anyone remember any kind of wt study or talk based on the song of soloman?

  if so, how'd it go?.

  chappy.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Is 'mutual endeavors' a vague sexual to mutual oral pleasuring? El 6 and el 9?

  I may have to write to the wts!!!
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  WT study and talk about sex..

  by chappy in

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  does anyone remember any kind of wt study or talk based on the song of soloman?

  if so, how'd it go?.

  chappy.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  insert 'reference'
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  Oral Review?

  by averyniceguy in

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  my parents said that they are having oral review tonight at the kh.

  how long is the oral review?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Possibly there are a good many of us who now would score better in oral than previously.

  Consider yourselves, Reviewed!
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  So...I got duped today!

  by lovelylil in

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  i am one of those people who always gives money to those who ask me on the street.

  the reason is because there was a time when i was a kid that my siblings and i needed to beg on the street for food money because mom and dad were both addicts.. anyway, i was on my way into walmart and a lady stopped me and asked if i could give her a few dollars ($5 to be exact) so that she could pick up a prescription for some medicine.

  she explained that she and her kids have been sick with bronchitis and although the kids were better she was not and had run out of money until her check came on the first of the month.. i can also sympethize with having to wait for government checks to buy what you need having grown up on state welfare programs and i reasoned that $5 is nothing for me and my husband because combined we bring in over six figures a year income.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  I feel like the first rule of self-defense applies here, and that is to recognize that if a stranger gets near and cozy enough to ask me a question, he or she is about to do something bad.

  I learned this when I was 7, in the second grade and walking home from school through a park--my mom's rule was to always pick me up from school, with the exception of every f*cking day when she was out in field service in the afternoon--so here I am in the middle of the park and this older kid asks me for the time, I jumble around with my violin case and my jacket while he grabbed me and put his hands down my pants.

  I guess, be lucky she only got your $5!